U.S. stoked Georgia war: Putin
— Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin opened a new front in the diplomatic
row over Georgia, directly accusing the United States of orchestrating the
conflict in the Caucasus as an election ploy to help one of the candidates
vying for the White House.
In an interview with CNN, the former Russian
president suggested that unnamed people in the United States stoked the
conflict in the Caucasus to create a crisis, but did not name the candidate
who stood to gain.
“If my guess is right, then it raises the suspicion that someone in the
U.S. specially created this conflict to worsen the situation and create an
advantage in the competitive struggle for one of the candidates for the post
of president of the United States,” said Mr. Putin, who still wields
considerable power in Russia.
“They needed a short, victorious war. And if it didn't work out, they
could always put the blame on us, make us look like the enemy and against
the background of this surge of patriotism, once more rally the country
around a particular political force,” he said.
The accusation of U.S. involvement, a first from Russia, drew a swift rebuke
from Washington. U.S. President George W. Bush's chief spokeswoman Dana Perino
called the accusation “patently false, suggesting Mr. Putin was getting bad
The crisis in Georgia flared earlier this month when Georgian forces tried to
reclaim the rebel republic of South Ossetia with a military offensive on the
capital of Tskhinvali. Russia launched an overwhelming counter-attack, routing
the Georgian army and pushing deep into Georgia proper.
The brief, but bloody conflict was halted by a French-brokered ceasefire, but
Russia forces still occupy some parts of Georgia.
On Tuesday, tensions flared anew when Moscow announced it was formally
recognizing South Ossetia and another breakaway republic, Abhkazia, as
Georgia claimed Moscow's bid was aimed at eventually annexing the regions.
European leaders and the United States also condemned the move.
Moscow claims its incursion into Georgia was aimed at saving Russian lives in
the republic and accused Georgia of genocide in the region.
In the interview, Mr. Putin also accused the U.S. of meddling in the war
“U.S. citizens were indeed in the area in conflict,” Mr. Putin said. “They
were acting in implementing … orders, doing as they were ordered, and the only
one who can give such orders is their leader.”
Mr. Putin wasn't the only Russian leader to claim the U.S. had a presence on
the ground in Georgia.
Thursday, Russia's deputy chief of the General Staff, Col. General Anatoly
Nogovitsyn, said Moscow's forces had retrieved from a battlefield in Georgia a
U.S. national's passport.
At a Moscow news conference, Col. General Nogovitsyn showed an enlarged,
colour photocopy of the document, in the name of a Michael Lee White, born in
1967. The passport, issued in the Texas city of Houston, bore a current visa
from Kazakhstan. U.S. citizens do not require a visa for Georgia.
The United States has denied any involvement in the conflict although it is a
staunch ally of Georgia. It says U.S. military advisers were in the country
training the Georgian army for its role in Iraq.
Mr. Putin made the comments just hours after Russia failed to shore up
support for its Georgian incursion among Central Asian states and China.
Russian President Dmitry Medvedev travelled to Tajikistan with the hopes of
persuading members of the Shanghai Co-operation Organization to back Russia.
But the six members of the regional security group – which includes China,
Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan – demurred, urging the countries to solve
their problems peacefully.
Meanwhile, Washington has ordered up to $5.75-million (U.S.) in aid to help
war victims in Georgia.
Amid the rising rhetoric, Ms. Perino attempted to quell suggestions that
relations between Russia and the West are deteriorating.
“I don't think anyone should be looking for a new Cold War,” she said. “What
we would like to see is the return to the status quo before Aug. 7th and the
hostilities began; before Russia invaded Georgia; before the disproportional
response to the regular flare-ups that happen in the summertime out in that
“What we would like to see is a return to a place where we can have
integration of Russia into the international community. Unfortunately, it's
Russia that made the choice to take several steps backward in that regard,” she
With reports from NYT, Reuters
Commentary by the Ottawa Mens Centre posted in the Globe and Mail
Ottawa Mens Centre.com, from Ottawa, Canada wrote: A US
PASSPORT of Michael Lee White Age 41 issued in Texas was found in a building in
South Ossetia occupied by Georgian Special Forces. Now the race is on, Just WHO
is Michael Lee White born 1969 with a passport issued in Texas and what was he
doing with Georgian Special Forces in a battle in South Ossetia against South
Ottawa Mens Centre.com, from Ottawa, Canada wrote: I don't
agree with Putin's statements about the invasion being for the purpose of the US
elections. I understand why the west THINKS he said that but if you listen to
the translation its obvious that it was "just a benefit", that is, the US knew
of the invasion and failed to stop it.
- Posted 29/08/08 at 1:46 AM EDT
The reality is the Republicans have utter contempt for civilian lives and think
nothing of sacrificing them for the foreign interests of the US.
I disagreed with Putin when he said the US and Russia had never used other
armies to attack each other during the cold war or perhaps I lost the meaning in
the bastardized English translation and without the benefit of listening to it
Putin go it wrong, The USA urged, funded Georgia to have confrontations with
Russia is a carbon copy of many other examples where the US has funded and
trained other armies or terrorists to indirectly attack Russia.
Remember how the US funded the present Taliban to kill Russian forces in
That little "blunder" in US foreign policy is now seeing what happens when you
sit down in an out house on top of angry red back spider.
Everyone who has an interest in Georgia knows from the news that for years,
HUNDREDS of US advisers and Israeli military advisory, nudge nudge , you know,
funded "indirectly" by Washington, were in Georgia. Now, just add up those
$20,00 a month pay checks, multiply them by say 500 and you have One Billion
Dollars a Year.
That begs the question, WHY would the US fund so much to such a small country
that has a very clear military goal of invading its neigbours?
Putin sure has Passion. You can hear it, there is little doubt that he
believes what he said. There is a ring of truth to it, the proof is in the
pudding, you can see who is 'talking tough" and reaping significant improvement
in the polls as a result of "action in Georgia.
- Posted 29/08/08 at 1:47 AM EDT
Just how is in the interests of world peace to send a guided missile destroyer
with a few pallets of "aid", thats not "aid" its a military and political
message dressed up with a load of posturing that is as Putin refers to, destined
for the public's consumption to boost political points.
I'd say that that was just a "side benefit", the US knew of the plans, they
carefully played through the what ifs and told the chief of just how his public
opinion would take a meteoric rise if "he did nothing" to stop it.
My crystal ball tells me that Bush just sent Misha a "half hearted" don't do
that" and nudge nudge wink wink, gave him the green light to go ahead. It was
probably not even a 'green light', just the right message that they knew would
be enough to "encourage" Mad Misha to set out to invade South Ossetia and kill
thousands of civilians , and damage Russian American relations for a significant
amount of time.
Was it just for US political opinion? No, Americans have a paranoid "cold war"
attitude towards Russia that goes ballistic and gets extremely borderline and
selfish whenever the smell of oil or the lack of it gets into air in Washington.
Now, what happened to Washington's forecast of a war in Iran in the next four
- Posted 29/08/08 at 2:01 AM EDT