Georgia severing ties with Russia
— Georgia severed diplomatic ties with Moscow on Friday to protest the
presence of Russian troops on its territory. Russia said the move would only
make things worse.
With European Union leaders set Monday to discuss in
Brussels how to deal with an increasingly assertive Russia, Prime Minister
Vladimir Putin angrily warned Europe not to do America's bidding and said
Moscow does not fear Western sanctions.
Russia has faced isolation over its offensive in Georgia and stands alone
in its recognition of breakaway regions South Ossetia and Abkhazia. The U.S.
and Europe have closed ranks in condemning Russia's actions but are
struggling to find an effective response.
EU leaders are not expected to impose sanctions on Russia at their summit
but may name a special envoy to Georgia to ensure that a ceasefire is
observed, French and Belgian officials said.
Georgia's diplomats in Russia will leave Moscow on Saturday, the Foreign
Ministry said. Georgia's leadership followed through on a call from lawmakers
who voted late Thursday to break off ties with Russia.
Russia criticized the move, saying it would not help mend ruined ties.
Both nations' consulates, however, will remain open — important for the many
Georgian citizens living in Russia. Under the 1963 Vienna Convention on Consular
Relations, breaking off diplomatic ties does not automatically lead to a cut in
The diplomatic break will require Georgia and Russia to negotiate through
third countries if they negotiate at all — a sticky situation because Russia
sees Western nations as biased in Georgia's favour. Georgia, which had pushed
for a greater role for international organizations, could see it as an
"We found ourselves in an awkward situation when a country militarily
invading and occupying our country, then recognizing part of its territories, is
trying to create a sense of normalcy" by maintaining diplomatic relations,
Foreign Minister Eka Tkeshelashvili said in Sweden.
But the move may bring little practical change, because there were few signs
of any productive diplomacy even before the war. Trade between Russia and
Georgia is also minimal, following Russian bans in 2006 on Georgia's major
exports — wine and mineral water — and other products.
Only a fraction of foreign investment in Georgia comes from Russia, while a
Russian ban on direct flights to and from Georgia was lifted this year but
flights were halted again as the war erupted. Overland travel is already
severely restricted because of impassable mountain ranges, and main routes
linking Georgia and Russia pass through South Ossetia and Abkhazia.
The five-day war broke out Aug. 7 when Georgia attacked South Ossetia in a
bid to wrest control from separatists. Russia sent in tanks, troops and bombers,
and has maintained a powerful military presence.
Kurt Volker, the U.S. Ambassador to NATO, said Georgia shouldn't be blamed
for sparking the crisis.
"It wasn't a Georgian attack on Tskhinvali that launched all of this," Mr.
Volker said in an interview with the British Broadcasting Corp., referring to
South Ossetia's capital. "It was Russian pressure over a long period of time and
then shelling coming from South Ossetians."
Still, he said Georgia's attack on South Ossetia "was not a wise thing to do
because as we've seen Russia was prepared to launch a major invasion."
Russia further angered the West and startled its supporters by recognizing
South Ossetia and Abkhazia on Tuesday.
Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili applauded the lack of global support
for recognition of the breakaway regions.
"Today it is a fight between the civilized and the uncivilized worlds," Mr.
Saakashvili said on visit to Poti, a Black Sea port still shadowed by Russian
forces who have set up positions nearby.
Mr. Putin said Russia defended the lives of its citizens during the war in
"Such a country will not be in isolation," Mr. Putin said in an excerpt of an
interview with Germany's ARD television shown on state-run Russian television.
Commentary in the Globe and Mail by the Ottawa Mens Centre
Ottawa Mens Centre.com, from Ottawa, Canada wrote: "An
Ambassadorial understatement" "Georgia's attack on South Ossetia was not a wise
thing to do", nope, but else can a war mongering president of the United States
say when they encourage a mad cap president to provoke Russia by murdering
hundreds if not thousands of civilians with a shelling attack on a city long
enough and brutal enough to cause a Russian response even while the Russians
waited to give George Bush to call off his maddog in Georgia.
I'm sickened by the horsemanure coming from Bush Rice and the American Olympic
Putin has called a spade a spade, its embarrasing to the USA who think they can
just laugh it off as just some crazy allegation by a former KGB agent.
Sorry, lots of facts support Russians concerns.
Ask all those Russian or Georgians who live in the west.
Ask any objective expert on the area.
The long term prediction is that Mad Misha will be booted out of Georgian
politics and that Georgia will choose a new government that seeks prosperity and
democracy without prostituting themselves in dysfunctional violent relationships
controlled by Washington. www.OttawaMensCentre.com
Ottawa Mens Centre.com, from Ottawa, Canada wrote: Cold War
Censorship like never before.
- Posted 29/08/08 at 8:22 PM EDT
With rare exceptions, Washington propaganda has become
the official cold war gruel for the masses.
Interviews get terminated, cut off, interfered with if they even
appear to be going the wrong way.
If the United States wants to make it self hated,
its sure doing a great job.
Thanks A B from Calgary;
who wrote "Georgian villages 'deliberately torched'
Destruction in villages around the South Ossetian capital, Tskhinvali, was
caused by intentional burning - not armed combat, the rights watchdog said.
"Human Rights Watch researchers personally witnessed Ossetian militias looting
and burning down ethnic Georgian villages during their research in the area,"
said Rachel Denber, deputy director of the Europe and Central Asia division of
Human Rights Watch.
Violence begets violence, War, is very easy to start and a hell of lot harder to
stop, Its a lot easier to inflame a war than put the flames out. The United
States did nothing to stop this war when it knew it was going to start, and gave
tacit approval by failing to even talk to Misha when Misha shut off the lines
with Moscow after starting his invasion.
And That's a real war crime if ever there was one.
As usual Washington thinks its above the Rule of Law and thats something that
the history books will recall to the shame of American History.
Now, if only Moscow would put English subtitles on its Russian language
Then we could hear that all important "tone of voice".
Ottawa Mens Centre.com, from Ottawa, Canada wrote: "Putin: I
strongly object to the way this question is formulated.", Putin being polite.
This was in response to a question that is usually called "when did you stop
hitting your wife" ,
- Posted 29/08/08 at 8:36 PM EDT
The "Washington Mouth" Matthew Chance" asked "Can you guarantee to us that
Russia will never again use its militarily forces against a neighboring state?"
This interview appears to have been crafted at CIA headquarters using a team of
psychologists designed to bait Putin, suggest responses to him prior to asking
the substantive question. If Putin had fallen for the trap, the western media
would have had material to last them for years.
Matthew Chance was in Georgia, engaged in delivering of Washington's media
announcements all with a biased incorrect, entirely misleading account of how
Misha started a war and forced a Russian response.
CNN has as much credibility as Gobels or the Baghdad Mouth to cover up
Washington's indirect war crimes all in the name of a paranoid foreign cold war
policy that conveniently occurs right when the Republican's need an excuse to
look like they are "talking tough" , a combination that is guaranteed to cause a
meteoric increase in the approval ratings. The BBC is just as sickening.
The average western person has trouble locating Georgia on the map and would not
know what alphabet or language is in use, let alone how to recognize that
Washington is feeding the world a pack of lies.
For news on Russia watch real Russian news at RussiaToday.com or on youtube or
on satellite for free at G5 97 degrees west, 11966 Mhz Horizontal. On the same
satellite you can see also for free AlJazeera.net/english , Russia Today can be
credited for giving a lot of airtime to American experts on Russia including the
former secretary for defense and the Brookings Institute to name a few. Check
out those informative interviews from Americans. www.OttawaMensCentre.com
PUTIN was making guarded understatements. Check these facts out.
- Posted 29/08/08 at 11:26 PM EDT
"A small group of American soldiers along with US advisors in civilian clothes
stand huddled around laptop computers, whispering with officers and looking at
images on the screen. As soon as a visitor walks over to see what they're up to,
they snap the computers shut. A man in his mid-30s, wearing a blue polo shirt,
explains: "We're the worst-informed people in Tbilisi. I can't even tell you
what we're doing here."
"As of the end of last week, the roughly 160 American military advisors still
stood their ground in Georgia."
"SakarTVelo, a Georgian military television station with the motto "We serve
those who serve," was using a 1932 quotation attributed to Adolf Hitler to
advertise for new recruits: "Only through the force of weapons" could lost
territory be regained."
Globe Readers need to know that Saakashvili copies the above mentioned ww2
character AH very well in many ways. He talks like AH, he uses AH reasoning, he
has the same crazy glazed over eyes, and even combs his hair in an identical
fashion as AH. That begs the question, what politician in his right mind would
so publicly show their admiration for such a person. The answer is, only the
very sick mind of a psychopath.
Congratulations to Spiegel.de
- Posted 29/08/08 at 11:41 PM EDT
- Did you see the images of "Gori
bombed"? If you look closely, you will see that it is ONE apartment
block that apparently was hit by a stray bomb that missed a military
target. Nearly all that video you saw or the still pictures of "bombing
in Gori" was filmed from a wide variety of angles at different times.
CNN and BBC showed video going to and from in different directions to
give the impression that it was from a wide variety of locations in Gori.
Some of the video of bombed "Georgian homes" was actually shot in South
PUTIN rarely makes mistakes, his interview contained several very
carefully worded statements that were "understatements" crediting
information to the Russian military. He knew that the information would
later hit the public domain and just could not resist the temptation to
tell the world first and who can blame him.
Spiegel.de appears to be the first news agency to provide the evidence
that the USA does not deny but shugs off as "wild allegations", its that
carefully worded statement that sounds like an official denial but is
also carefully worded so that its not actually denying that "American
military advisors were in Georgia at the time of the Georgian attack.
Spiegel.de also points out the "coincidences' such as Rice departed
Georgia exactly 28 days BEFORE the Georgian attack.
It appears that Misha and Washington were telling the world about their
invasions plans for South Ossetia weeks and months before the attack.
Obviously Russia had enough intelligence powers of observation to know
the attack was probable.
I'm looking forward to when Bush has to admit, ah yes, we had not the
500 US military in Georgia but around 180 (on the day of the Georgian
Thats a play on the facts. Go back 28 days and it appears that the
figure was around 1200 or more and thats not counting the Israeli
military specialists funded indirectly by Washington.
- Posted 30/08/08 at 12:34 AM EDT