Anne-Marie Roy decries ‘rape culture’ at University of Ottawa after she was target of student leaders’ sexually graphic chat


Anne-Marie Roy, president of the Student Federation of the University of Ottawa, speaks at a May Day rally in Ottawa on May 1, 2013. She is speaking out about an online conversation among five fellow students in which she was the target of sexually graphic banter.

A student union leader at the University of Ottawa says an online conversation among five fellow students in which she was the target of sexually graphic banter shows that “rape culture” is all too prevalent on Canadian campuses.

Anne-Marie Roy, 24, is going public despite being threatened with legal action by four of the male students, who say the Facebook conversation was private.

Nonetheless, Roy — who received a copy of the conversation via an anonymous email — said she felt compelled to speak out, especially since the five individuals were in positions of leadership on campus.

“They should be held accountable for those actions. Actions have consequences and I think that this is certainly something that can’t go unnoticed,” said Roy, who heads the Student Federation of the University of Ottawa.

Rape culture is very present on our campuses

“Rape culture is very present on our campuses…I think that it’s very shameful to see that there are student leaders who are perpetuating that within their own circles.”

The incident was first reported in the Fulcrum, the university’s English language student newspaper.

Roy said she was sent screenshots of the Facebook conversation on Feb. 10, while student elections were being held on campus.

The online conversation — a copy of which was obtained by The Canadian Press — included references to sexual activities some of the five individuals wrote they would like to engage in with Roy, including oral and anal sex, as well as suggestions that she suffered from sexually transmitted diseases.

“Someone punish her with their shaft,” wrote one of the individuals at one point. “I do believe that with my reputation I would destroy her,” wrote another.

After confronting a member of the conversation in person, Roy said she received an emailed apology from all five men which emphasized that their comments were never actual threats against her.

“While it doesn’t change the inadmissible nature of our comments, we wish to assure you we meant you no harm,” the apology, written in French, read.

“We realize the content of our conversation between friends promotes values that have no place in our society and our campus, on top of being unacceptably coarse.”

But Roy felt the apology wasn’t enough.

“I was very torn up by the conversation,” she said. “I also think there needs to be a level of responsibility taken for the words that were said in that conversation.”

Roy decided she would bring it up at a Feb. 23 meeting of the student federation’s Board of Administration, which oversees the affairs of the student union.

Her plan was to distribute copies of the conversation to the board’s members while asking the board to move a motion to “condemn” those who engaged in the discussion, two of whom were board members. The other three were involved with organizing campus events.

After learning of Roy’s plan, four of the five individuals sent her a letter warning her that the conversation was a private one and that sharing it with others would amount to a violation of their rights.

After consulting with a lawyer, Roy chose to go ahead with sharing the conversation with the board, but received a cease and desist letter during the board meeting.

The letter — which identifies the four participants as Michel Fournier-Simard, Alexandre Giroux, Alexandre Larochelle and Robert-Marc Tremblay — threatened legal action against Roy if she did not “destroy” her copy of the online conversation and stop sharing it with others.

The letter also alleged that Roy, through an intermediary, had initially considered not sharing the conversation if the four participants would promise not to run for student leadership positions in the future.

After learning of the letter, the board decided to shelve the motion introduced at the meeting, but Roy said she wasn’t ready to drop the matter.

There was some conversation with some pretty violent

“It was kind of like getting a double whammy, you get put in a very difficult situation and to have these men try to take all power away from me by telling me that I need to be censored and that I can’t take action,” she said.

“This is also incredibly frustrating and I think speaks to the fact that rape culture does not get challenged enough.”

The one participant in the conversation who is not threatening legal action said the entire incident has been a huge learning experience.

“There was some conversation with some pretty violent, like, some pretty demeaning words,” said Pat Marquis. “I didn’t say much in that conversation, but I didn’t stop it either.”

Marquis was a vice-president in the student union until he resigned this weekend, reportedly after receiving hate mail and threats related to the conversation. He said he planned to meet with Roy to “discuss ways to move forward.”

“There’s a lot of boys’ talk and locker room talk that can seem pretty normal at the time, but then when you actually look back at it, it can be offensive,” he said.

“I would never say that kind of thing out in the public but when it was a private conversation I guess it slipped my mind that that’s really not acceptable.”

Another member of the five, who did not want to be named, said the conversation was private and obtained illegally. He said the participants didn’t believe they promoted rape culture, but “didn’t stop it,” and now wanted to “promote the end of rape culture together.”

Meanwhile, a lawyer for Larochelle said his client was to meet with Roy on the weekend to defuse the situation.

He also provided The Canadian Press with a copy of a letter he sent to the author of a blog which has discussed the matter openly.

“Nothing in my client’s statements are misogynistic, “slut-shaming,” or refer to “rape,” wrote Michael D. Swindley in that letter.

In a statement issued on Saturday, the University of Ottawa said it was “appalled” by the online conversation which it said demonstrated attitudes about women and sexual aggression that had “no place on campus, or anywhere else.” It said it was working with Roy to develop “an appropriate response.”

The entire incident has at least one observer saying it’s clear universities need to have a more open discussion about how students talk about each other, even in private.

“I do think it’s a form of cyberbullying even though she wasn’t a direct recipient of those messages on Facebook,” said Wanda Cassidy, associate professor at Simon Fraser University who researches cyberbullying in schools and universities.

“There needs to be a lot more conversation around those kinds of behaviour and comments that are made demeaning towards women.”

The footprint that such comments can leave on the Internet should also make individuals think twice before sending demeaning or hurtful messages, she said.

“Whereas 20 years ago those guys might have been out sitting around having a beer and talking in that way, it is quite different when you’re putting in print, because it’s there as a record.”

Roy’s experience comes about four months after outraged complaints surfaced over student chants at universities in Halifax and British Columbia.

The president of the Saint Mary’s University students’ association stepped down in September after a frosh-week chant glorifying the sexual assault of underage girls was captured on a video that made national headlines.

And the University of B.C.’s Sauder School of Business cut support for annual first-year orientation activities after a similar chant was sung on one or more buses during events sponsored by the Commerce Undergraduate Society.


Commentary by the Ottawa Mens Centre

Another sign of Dangerous Times.
Anne-Marie Roy it appears, had an insider, to a group of men who, thought they were having a private conversation and then SHE published it.

She has caused all five men to apparently receive all sorts of threats and several have resigned as a result.

Then we have some "men" who are supposedly her supporters, working like crazy to have ALL five removed.

Then, they go on the National Post and remove posts
they don't like.

The Ottawa University promotes violence towards men, and
that includes promoting murder of men if, the murderess can
claim to be a victim of abuse.

Ottawa is now famous for a woman stabing her sleeping husband in the chest and claiming it was because she was a victim of abuse.

The Supreme Court of Canada says it's OK to hire a hit man to murder your husband,
sorry, OK for woman to hire a hitMAN to kill her MALE partner.

These same feminists would be appalled if a lesbian hired a hitWoman to hire her female partner.. That of course would be murder.

The Ottawa University thru its spokespeople, openly promote violence towards men and Anne-Marie Roy has apparently directly or indirectly,  POSTED private and confidential chats ONLINE in order that now cause five men to live in terror.

What else would she like those five me to suffer?

When is she going to stop?

Don't expect Anne-Marie Roy to stop any time soon.

I predict we are going to hear of her in the future with more promotion of hatred towards men and she will join Ottawa's other famous female promoters of hatred towards men who also have a history with the University of Ottawa, a cess pool of hatred towards men.

Anne-Marie Roy, claims that she received the email anonymously.
Someone it appears was either taking part and creating ammunition
for her, or had illegal or at least improper access to an account, and
then invaded their private and confidential on-line communications
to destroy their lives.

That's is, these five men have been F##%ed over, and that it is probably  a lot worse
than being physically raped.

Anne-Marie Roy is in a position of absolute power and we have seen what she can do.

Odds are we have not heard the rest of Anne-Marie Roy and odds are she will be stretching the imagination to claim that other private and confidential communications are somehow justify the existence of a rape culture by men towards women but
fail to have any mention of abuse rape or otherwise by women of men.

If Anne-Marie Roy really had genuine interest in victims of abuse, we might have heard from her about how men are victims of female abuse.

We can expect more promotion of hatred towards men from the Ottawa University which is a cess pool of promotion of hatred towards men... a growing popular cult like activity for the Canadian Man Haters Association.


Anne-Marie Roy lives in another world, a world were it's normal to promote hatred towards men.

The reality is , young men and women both talk sex about each other and privately all the things that they would like to do with a member of the opposite sex.

If women do it, thats fine, if they talk privately, any monitoring or interception of their private communications would be  harassment etc...

There is a complete double standard and its women like Anne-Marie Roy who want to promote hatred towards men under a fig leaf of a claim of being a victim.

She wears the unofficial uniform of well known feminists who work professionally promoting hatred towards men. Most people won't recognize it but they have their own cult like customs that all conform with the "Canadian Man Haters Association".

It would be nice to see her stand up for equality rights for men and the odds of that occurring appears to be entirely remote.

Expect a lot more from this lady in the future, not doubt, grasping at straws called rape culture, and tiling at windmills that might appear to be male interested in a female windmill.

Notice she does not share the name of the lawyer who told her to "go public", that is publicly destroy all five of the men whose private and confidential communications were sent by one of them, directly, or and oir indirectly to Anne-Marie Roy.

Anne-Marie wants to paint her self as a victim, however her conduct is now harassment, intimidation, defamation, and most probably total destruction of five men
who happened to chat privately apparently about how attractive she was, even without make up and in the approved dress code of a front line feminist who apparently wishes to portray all men as rapists or would be rapists etc etc etc.

Of course the only men who don't fall into that category are those who become her male spokespersons for her cause.

Now watch as they have this post like many others removed.
Heresy against feminist posts is apparently a crime.

Check out Proud Surrey's comment

Stopping government subsidies to gender studies would sharply curb universities' tendency to produce raging femi-Nazis like this one. A university is supposed to be a place for learning and research, not a breeding ground for sedition and disharmony.

This, essentially, is how she handles losing an argument with a man. She can't overcome with the veracity of her argument, so she tries to steamroller by pleading her puzzy. University staff have no business delving into private correspondence. Their function is to administrate, not to advocate.

There is NO Charter right to never be offended.